Q111 Mr Bacon: Mr Pocklington, can you just give me, because funnily enough I have got a calculator, the numbers please?
Mr Pocklington: From 2007-08?
Q112 Mr Bacon: Yes, read them out. I will put them straight into my calculator and this will save us time.
Mr Pocklington: 7.3, 7.8, 8.2, 8.5, 8.6, 8.7, 8.8.
Q113 Mr Bacon: I am already at £57 billion, by the way! Keep going.
Mr Pocklington: 8.8, 8.8, 8.9, 8.2, 5.8, 5.8.
Mr Bacon: Whoops!
Chairman: A few billion either way will not matter.
Q114 Mr Bacon: Keep going.
Mr Pocklington: 5.9, 5.5, 5.4, 5.4, 5.4, 5.2, 5.0, 4.8.3
Chairman: All right.
Q115 Mr Bacon: No, I want the whole lot, keep going.
Mr Pocklington: 4.5, 4.2, 3.8, 3.4.
Q116 Mr Bacon: That is the whole lot, is it?
Mr Pocklington: Yes.
Q117 Mr Bacon: Going up to which year?
Mr Pocklington: 2031-32.
Q118 Mr Bacon: And is that the maximum extent to which there are known contracts, so to speak?
Mr Pocklington: That is the maximum that we collect through our biannual process of collecting data.
Q119 Mr Bacon: How much further beyond that does it actually go?
Mr Pocklington: It will depend on the length of contracts, that will include the vast majority of contracts.
Q120 Mr Bacon: That comes to £157.9 billion. Is that then a rough proxy for the answer to my first question, Mr Stewart?
Mr Stewart: I think that is the liabilities accruing under PFI.
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3 Note by witness: The figures quoted here were taken from table C19 of the 2007 Budget document. HM Treasury provided the Committee with a copy of this table in a follow up note to this hearing (Ev 13 & 15).